Difference between 45nm Core 2 (Duo / Quad) and 65nm Core 2 (Duo / Quad)
New PC buyers would be facing one major questions, though its quite confirm that it would be a Core 2 (Duo / Quad) processor but now there is 2 versions of it. The 65nm Conroe batch and 45nm Penryn batch.
Many would be thinking whats the difference between these 45nm Core 2 Duo / Quad vs 65nm Core 2 Duo / Quad processors ?
I would be trying to list few basic difference between these processors from an end user point a view. The immediate difference one may find is their identifying model numbers.
- nm stands for nano meter.
- Code name of Intel processors comes from the a name of any local neighborhood near by to the Intel development facility in which it is developed
Intel 65nm processors are the 1st batch of Core architecture product code named Conroe / Conroe XE / Conroe L / Allendale / Merom / Merom XE / Kentsfield / Kentsfield XE.
Intel 45nm Penryn processors are the second batch of the successful Core architecture with Code name Penryn / Wolfdale / Yorkfield / Yorkfield XE.
Every single Intel processor model has their unique identification numbers, the 65nm numbers are as follows with relationship of their code name.
The 65nm Core 2 batch is as follows, it contains Dual Core desktop and notebook as well as Quad core desktop processors.
Intel Core 2 Duo (Conroe - 65nm)
E6300 - 2MB L2 / 1066 FSB / 1.86 GHz / 65W / Desptop (LGA 775)
E6320 - 4MB L2 / 1066 FSB / 1.86 GHz / 65W / Desptop (LGA 775)
E6400 - 2MB L2 / 1066 FSB / 2.13 GHz / 65W / Desptop (LGA 775)
E6420 - 4MB L2 / 1066 FSB / 2.13 GHz / 65W / Desptop (LGA 775)
E6540 - 2MB L2 / 1066 FSB / 2.33 GHz / 65W / Desptop (LGA 775)
E6550 - 4MB L2 / 1333 FSB / 2.33 GHz / 65W / Desptop (LGA 775)
E6600 - 4MB L2 / 1066 FSB / 2.40 GHz / 65W / Desptop (LGA 775)
E6700 - 4MB L2 / 1066 FSB / 2.67 GHz / 65W / Desptop (LGA 775)
E6750 - 4MB L2 / 1333 FSB / 2.67 GHz / 65W / Desptop (LGA 775)
E6850 - 4MB L2 / 1333 FSB / 3.00 GHz / 65W / Desptop (LGA 775)
Intel Core 2 eXtreme (Conroe XE - 65nm)
X6800 - 4MB L2 / 1066 FSB / 2.93 GHz / 75W / Desptop (LGA 775)
Intel Core 2 Duo (Allendale - 65nm)
E4300 - 2MB L2 / 800 FSB / 1.80 GHz / 65W / Desptop (LGA 775)
E4400 - 2MB L2 / 800 FSB / 2.00 GHz / 65W / Desptop (LGA 775)
E4500 - 2MB L2 / 800 FSB / 2.20 GHz / 65W / Desptop (LGA 775)
E4600 - 2MB L2 / 800 FSB / 2.40 GHz / 65W / Desptop (LGA 775)
E4700 - 2MB L2 / 800 FSB / 2.60 GHz / 65W / Desptop (LGA 775)
Intel Core 2 Duo (Merom - 65nm)
T5200 - 2MB L2 / 533 FSB / 1.60 GHz / 34W / Mobile (Socket P)
T5250 - 2MB L2 / 667 FSB / 1.50 GHz / 35W / Mobile (Socket P)
T5270 - 2MB L2 / 800 FSB / 1.40 GHz / 35W / Mobile (Socket P)
T5300 - 2MB L2 / 533 FSB / 1.73 GHz / 35W / Mobile (Socket P)
T5450 - 2MB L2 / 667 FSB / 1.66 GHz / 35W / Mobile (Socket P)
T5470 - 2MB L2 / 800 FSB / 1.60 GHz / 35W / Mobile (Socket P)
T5500 - 2MB L2 / 667 FSB / 1.66 GHz / 34W / Mobile (Socket P)
T5550 - 2MB L2 / 667 FSB / 1.83 GHz / 34W / Mobile (Socket P)
T5600 - 2MB L2 / 667 FSB / 1.83 GHz / 34W / Mobile (Socket P)
T5750 - 2MB L2 / 667 FSB / 2.00 GHz / 35W / Mobile (Socket P)
T5850 - 2MB L2 / 667 FSB / 2.16 GHz / 35W / Mobile (Socket P)
T7100 - 2MB L2 / 800 FSB / 1.80 GHz / 35W / Mobile (Socket P)
T7200 - 4MB L2 / 667 FSB / 2.00 GHz / 34W / Mobile (Socket P)
T7250 - 2MB L2 / 800 FSB / 2.00 GHz / 35W / Mobile (Socket P)
T7300 - 4MB L2 / 800 FSB / 2.00 GHz / 35W / Mobile (Socket P)
T7400 - 4MB L2 / 667 FSB / 2.16 GHz / 34W / Mobile (Socket P)
T7500 - 4MB L2 / 800 FSB / 2.20 GHz / 35W / Mobile (Socket P)
T7600 - 4MB L2 / 667 FSB / 2.33 GHz / 35W / Mobile (Socket P)
T7700 - 4MB L2 / 800 FSB / 2.40 GHz / 34W / Mobile (Socket P)
T7800 - 4MB L2 / 800 FSB / 2.60 GHz / 35W / Mobile (Socket P)
L7200 - 4MB L2 / 667 FSB / 1.33 GHz / 17W / Mobile (Socket P)
L7300 - 4MB L2 / 800 FSB / 1.40 GHz / 17W / Mobile (Socket P)
L7400 - 4MB L2 / 667 FSB / 1.50 GHz / 17W / Mobile (Socket P)
L7500 - 4MB L2 / 800 FSB / 1.60 GHz / 17W / Mobile (Socket P)
L7700 - 4MB L2 / 800 FSB / 1.80 GHz / 17W / Mobile (Socket P)
U7500 - 2MB L2 / 533 FSB / 1.06 GHz / 10W / Mobile (Socket P)
U7600 - 2MB L2 / 533 FSB / 1.20 GHz / 10W / Mobile (Socket P)
U7700 - 2MB L2 / 533 FSB / 1.33 GHz / 10W / Mobile (Socket P)
Intel Core 2 eXtreme (Merom XE - 65nm)
X7800 - 4MB L2 / 800 FSB / 2.60 GHz / 44W / Mobile (Socket P)
X7900 - 4MB L2 / 800 FSB / 2.80 GHz / 44W / Mobile (Socket P)
Intel Core 2 Quad (Kentsfield - 65nm)
Q6600 - 8MB L2 / 1066 FSB / 2.40 GHz / 95W / Desktop (LGA 775)
Q6700 - 8MB L2 / 1066 FSB / 2.67 GHz / 95W / Desktop (LGA 775)
Intel Core 2 Quad (Kentsfield XE - 65nm)
QX6700 - 8MB L2 / 1066 FSB / 2.67 GHz / 130W / Desktop (LGA 775)
QX6800 - 8MB L2 / 1066 FSB / 2.93 GHz / 130W / Desktop (LGA 775)
QX6850 - 8MB L2 / 1333 FSB / 3.00 GHz / 130W / Desktop (LGA 775)
The 45nm Penryn batch is as follows,
Intel Core 2 Duo (Penryn - 45nm)
T9300 - 6MB L2 / 800 FSB / 2.50 GHz / 35W / Mobile (Socket P)
T9500 - 6MB L2 / 800 FSB / 2.60 GHz / 35W / Mobile (Socket P)
T8100 - 3MB L2 / 800 FSB / 2.10 GHz / 35W / Mobile (Socket P)
T8300 - 3MB L2 / 800 FSB / 2.40 GHz / 35W / Mobile (Socket P)
Intel Core 2 eXtreme (Penryn XE - 45nm)
X9000 - 6MB L2 / 800 FSB / 2.80 GHz / 44W / Mobile (Socket P)
X9100 - 6MB L2 / 800 FSB / 3.00 GHz / 44W / Mobile (Socket P)
Intel Core 2 Duo (Wolfdale - 45nm)
E7200 - 3MB L2 / 1066 FSB / 2.53 GHz / 65W / Desktop (LGA 775)
E7300 - 3MB L2 / 1066 FSB / 2.67 GHz / 65W / Desktop (LGA 775)
E8190 - 6MB L2 / 1333 FSB / 2.67 GHz / 65W / Desktop (LGA 775)
E8200 - 6MB L2 / 1333 FSB / 2.67 GHz / 65W / Desktop (LGA 775)
E8300 - 6MB L2 / 1333 FSB / 2.83 GHz / 65W / Desktop (LGA 775)
E8400 - 6MB L2 / 1333 FSB / 3.00 GHz / 65W / Desktop (LGA 775)
E8500 - 6MB L2 / 1333 FSB / 3.16 GHz / 65W / Desktop (LGA 775)
Intel Core 2 Quad (Yorkfield - 45nm)
Q9300 - 06MB L2 / 1333 FSB / 2.50 GHz / 95W / Desktop (LGA 775)
Q9450 - 12MB L2 / 1333 FSB / 2.67 GHz / 95W / Desktop (LGA 775)
Q9550 - 12MB L2 / 1333 FSB / 2.83 GHz / 95W / Desktop (LGA 775)
Intel Core 2 eXtreme (Yorkfield XE - 45nm)
QX9650 - 12MB L2 / 1333 FSB / 3.00 GHz / 130W / Desktop (LGA 775)
QX9770 - 12MB L2 / 1333 FSB / 3.20 GHz / 136W / Desktop (LGA 775)
QX9775 - 12MB L2 / 1333 FSB / 3.20 GHz / 150W / Desktop (LGA 775)
As you may see, from the model numbers, basically the E6xxx / E4xxx / T5xxx / T7xxx / Q6xxx / QX6xxx processors are coming under 65nm platform, where as the E7xxx / E8xxx / Q9xxx / T8xxx / Q9xxx / QX9xxx processors belongs to Penryn 45nm family.
So when you would be looking to purchase a notebook or a desktop processor, this number would quickly help you to under stand the type of the processor it is coming with.
Difference in their manufacturing !
All though all these processors are under Core 2 family however there is a major jump from 65nm to this 45nm platform which Intel has done.
Basic building block of modern processors, silicon is no longer present in this 45nm family. 65nm infact is the smallest that a silicon gate can archive. Intel has developed a new material calling it High-K gate.
High-K gate allows Intel to make smaller transistors. A quick Intel video on Why High-K switch ?
What are transistors ?
In short layman’s language, this is some thing which is building block of any processor. It calculate and processes data. - Read more in Wiki. More is better, so number of transistors under your processor will determine how fast it is.
Number of transistors
45nm Core 2 processors contains 410 million transistors per core compare to 291 million per core of a 65nm Core 2 processor. Few quick facts on 45nm
Difference in clock speed and power consumptions
Increased number of transistors and lower power consumptions allows the new 45nm processors to run at higher clock speed compare to 65nm counter part under same price range !!
More L2 cache
Once again smaller transistors size with High-K gate at 45nm allowed more space under processor Die, thus allowed Intel to increase the L2 cache.
Compare to 4 MB L2 E6xxx the standard Penryn dual core comes with 6 MB L2 where as compare to 8 MB of 65nm Quads, a 45nm quad core comes with 12 MB of cache.
Enhanced cache line split load
Not only more L2 option for 45nm processors, also they get smarter. Penryn comes with a new function called “enhanced cache line split load“. This innovation allows the processors to read L2 data more efficiently. Namely, the set of data which are suppose to be on a single thread but for some reason, is distributed on multiple thread. This new function would help to realign the data on a single thread and unblocking other threads which would allow other sets of data to be processed simultaneously. Data base related applications and some CAD applications would heavily benefit from it.
Fractional multiple
The Penryn family supports fractional multiple, thus allowing users to archive better over clocking needs.
Multiple ??
(FSB / 4) x multiple = Clock Speed
Good for over clocking
The new Penryn 45nm family is certainly better over clockers compare to their 65nm counter part. New High-K gate technology along with fractional multiple allows the lowest range 45nm processors (E8xxx) to touch almost 4 GHz with simple air cooling options.
Fast Radix-16 Divider support
This is a new feature compare to Radix-4 under a 65 nm Core 2 processor which is now included under Penryn batch. Just in layman’s language, this allows Penryn to process certain data such as integer and floating-point division and square roots twice faster than older 65 nm batch. Virtual / CAD application would have some major benefit from it.
Built For Virtualization
The 45nm batch is built for virtualization. This range of processors with Intel VT technology and larger L2 cache is meant to provide full support for application platform like Windows Server 2008 Hyper-V / VM Ware hardware virtualization or upcoming Windows 7 with native virtualization support.
SSE4.1 instructions support
Once again a major jump by supporting 47 new instruction set over older SSSE3 instruction sets. This is a major jump for Hardware technology how ever right now there are very very few application which are able to use few of these new 47 instruction set, for example few video encoding softwares would run significantly faster with Penryn compare to older Core 2 range. However not just video encoding, as we move along many upcoming softwares would be optimized for 45nm platform and would have ability to use these new instruction sets.
What does this mean to a layman computer user ?
To be honest, if you have a 65nm (Conroe) Core 2 range processor then under present real world application there would be a 6 to 15 % improvement with the new 45nm Penryn batch with heavy processing application, but with day to day application, there will be no visible performance improvement.
Simply to put it in this way, at present we dont have any mainstream real world application which can take advantage of a Penryn.
So if you are thing to upgrade your 65nm Core 2 (duo / quad) range processor with a new 45nm, then I would suggest to hold. It would be better idea to wait till the Intel 32nm nehalem range for a processor upgrade. Where as if you have money to spend, it would better idea to buy a better and powerful graphics card (if you are a gamer) or some more RAM (for virtualisation) or a better and larger TFT (for entertainment).
Where as if you are a new computer user and planing to buy one PC / Notebook, then as intel has released these 45nm with same price tag of 65nm, you must make sure your new PC / notebook comes with 45nm processor if you plan to buy a Intel based PC.
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Fantastic information. Some insight into the price difference would be nice. planning to buy a new PC mainly for high end 3D gaming. Any suggestions on the specs. Especially MB, Processor, Ram.
very good info. given in this context. it will prove helpful for me to buy my new lap. thank you
very good article, that’s a lot of information many many thanks.
these is very nice and important article.
thanks to submitter.
Great Article! This is a good summary and much appreciated!
Did want to point out though that in the Mobile Core 2 Duo processor family (Merom,etc) there are actually 2 different and completely incompatible sockets (Socket M and Socket P. Buy the wrong one and you can get burned!
Socket M is for their “Napa” platform and is actually the same socket as the older Pentium M mobile processor. Socket P is for their 800 Mhz FSB “Santa Rosa” design and different than the Socket M although they both have 478 pins. Generally speaking the T5500, T5600 Core 2 Duo and T2300,2400,ec Core Duo mobile processors will fit in a Socket M board and run at a maximum 667 FSB.
Newer T7100,T7250 processors are the newer Socket P and mostly run at 800 Mhz FSb although a few are at 667. Intel has made this very difficult and confusing to understand. For example a T7100 is Socket P, T7200 is socket M, T7250 is Socket P,T7300 is socket P, T7400 is Socket M, etc. What the ??? was Intel thinking when they did this?
Their is however some good news. This page in Wikipedia seems to have it right with a summary of all the processors and packages:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core_2#Merom
Thanks to the person who compiled that!
ICEman
Will the Intel Core 2 Quad (Kentsfield - 65nm)
processor run Windows Server 2008 Hyper-v?
Will the Intel Core 2 Quad (Kentsfield - 65nm) processor run Windows Server 2008 Hyper-V?
We are waiting for 32NM, When it is launching.
Hi swb713
Its bit tricky quiestion… See Core 2 Duo comes in 2 different model, 65nm and 45nm..
So it comes down to your motherboard model number as if the motherboard supports 45nm CPU, then yes you can replace a 65nm core 2 duo with a 45nm dual core…
So can you please mention as what is the motherboard model number ??
Thanks
I was wondering if it is possible to put a Inel Dual-Core processor on a motherboard to replace my Core 2-Duo? My Core 2-Duo is 65nm and the Dual-Core is 45nm. Will this cause a problem?
great post. understandable for the silly girls, also enough data for the professionals. thanks for this post!
hi
a really nice and enlightening article. I am planning to buy a laptop to run maya. Can u plz suggest any company and config (intel/amd) supprorting 4gb ram… http://techbengal.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4
this link is not working so pls mail me if possible
hi iam planning to get a high end laptop for my engg design purpose in mechanical with softwares like catia, proe, ansys, solid works,etc…
will vista support for my needs send me some high end config laps models,
in dell hp and sony. my budget is around 60000 INR am in coimbatore
reply me ASAP.
i have taken processor core 2 duo for that which is good Intel original mother board or asus mother board
i just want to take system for Sap R/3
can u suggest a suitable configuration
^^^
Stick with T5750, it would be better idea to invest in any other parts rather than wasting USD 50 on T5850 !!!!
Thanks
hi choto ,
I can’t see much diff between core 2 duo T5750(2GHz) and T5850(2.16GHz)but the cost difference around 50$ .
Is there any other difference between 2 processors
When 32nm is launching.
Thanks for running this web.
manishsardana007@gmail.com
Great details. Thanks a lot for advise. I am planing to built a new computer using for video editing. I better wait till 32nm com out…
Thanks again,
@Sarah
The X4 9550 is Rs. 8000/- in Kolkata retail market, and for your usage X3 would be just fine…
@vikas
Sir please do mention your full budget
thank you